TSA chief rethinking screening procedures ~ Should we rethink our TSA Chief? (poll)

3 months too long. Fire the Republican too.

Congressman Mica - Republican from Florida.

Kinda funny huh? Conservatives are always yapping about Obama and big gubment intruding into our lives but yet it was a Republican who wrote the law that authorizes this madness...and people are calling for Pisole's head?

I know just as many outraged Republicans over this issue as Democrats. I would say that this issue is something most of us can stand untied on rather than turning it into a disingenuous reason to take pot shots at each other's party.

Regardless of the political party of the author of such rules....they obviously screwed the pooch on this one.

The non-partisan public outcry from both Democrats and Republicans carries a lot of weight. The American people...when we are a unified front....are a force to be reckoned with and the powers that be know it. So let's stand together on this one and make our voices heard above the din of partisan rhetoric.

Who knows...we might actually notice how much more we can get done -together- than we can apart.

Honestly, if I were 100% sure that the scans were safe AND effective, I would be in favor of them.

Firstly, I'm skeptical that they are safe. It's one thing to eat a piece of irradiated fruit, it's another to be that piece of fruit. And call me cynical, but we have become a nation of deferred maintenance. How long will it take before one of these machines has slipped out of adjustment and is exposing 100s or 1000s of innocent passengers per day to excessive radiation? As for being effective, these machines supposedly aren't very good at spotting explosives. What good are they then?

Obviously we're doing something right

We weren't groping people for the last 9 years. I have taken more than 20 airline flights in the last decade. I assure you, this crap is new. It is not the reason we haven't had a hijacking.

Correlation does NOT equal causality.

We weren't groping people for the last 9 years. I have taken more than 20 airline flights in the last decade. I assure you, this crap is new. It is not the reason we haven't had a hijacking.

No, but we didn't have an underwear bomber 9 years ago either. I have taken more than 30 airline flights this year. There are currently more than 700 commercial passenger airports in the U.S. and only about 70 of them have full-body scanners. Terrorist tactics change and so must our efforts to prevent terrorist attacks. I've been through 2 TSA patdowns, the most recent one about 6 weeks ago. You have the option of having the patdown conducted in full view of everyone or you can go to a private screening area. The TSA officer who patted me down was professional, courteous, and even cracked a couple of jokes.

As for the radiation risk of the full-body scanner, 30 hours of flight will give you the radiation equivalent of a medical chest x-ray. About 5000 trips through a full-body scanner will give you the radiation equivalent of a medical chest x-ray. You're far more likely to spend 30 hours aloft in your lifetime. Heck, I've spent much more than 30 hours aloft this year.

We accept being frisked by a stranger for admittance into a concert but we don't think it's reasonable to be frisked before boarding an airliner. What's wrong with us?

Its not like they've made a secret that they will be checking people... Hell enjoy it, give the guy a $5 tip afterwards and go have a smoke.

I can just imagine the look on my protective husband's face if they ever start doing cavity searches and some igit who is not my gynecologist wants to ummm...cavity search me. Ohhhh yeahhhhh....it would NOT be pretty.

I know how a woman who has been a rape victim would feel as well, having been one myself.

Let's just say....if it involves flying...we won't be going.

mrsrachelm---well the new scanners that everyone is in such an uproar about do not reveal things hidden inside the body.....

"But just where does he think he's headed? Where will the next bomber plant a bomb?"

I work in Corrections....you have no idea how much of what can go in to a "prison wallet".

Currently every bag gets x-rayed but not every bag gets opened and physically checked. The only way to do that would be to require passengers to submit their bags for screening several hours before the flight. For domestic flights at most airports we let passengers arrive and check bags up to 30 minutes before their departure time (an hour at some airports). If were were to do physical bag checks for everyone we would probably have to move that latest arrival time back to a couple of hours before scheduled departure. Most passengers would not be willing to arrive that early just to check a bag.

What is the latest about Muslims being excused from the TSA sexual molestation? Where and when did Americans become our own enemies? There is something seriously WRONG! with the whole deal. Let's make Nappy, Pelosi* and Reid get groped and molested when they want to fly on our taxpayer aircraft. Bet they end the procedure quickly.

There are no religious exclusions from TSA screening. Period. If you wish to be screened in a private room instead of out in public view you may request that instead, but there are no religious exclusions. Always question the source, American Dreams. There was a religious exclusion in Canada. There has never been a religious exclusion in the United States. Women who wear the burqa or the hijab receive no special consideration in the U.S. in regards to airport screening according to official TSA policy.

Division by Zero

Wrong - CAIR raised a fuss about the procedure so Muslim women are not patted down below their ḥijāb. CAIR is working hard to make stealth Sharia law become accepted in the US. This exception is nothing more or less then racial and religious discrimination of Americans.And we are blindly accept this invasion of our body and out culture because we're so afraid to be called racist and being un-PC. We are the Frog in the beaker. Why in the world would Napolitano even consider an "adjustment" that would exempt Muslim women from pat downs?

Question the source. Muslim Group Advises Women Wearing Hijabs

CAIR is not the TSA. They can advise Muslim women to do whatever they want, but they have no power over what TSA does. They "advise" Muslim women that they can, in lieu of a patdown, pat themselves down. Ah, no. TSA will not let anyone pat themselves down. The "travel advisory" issued by CAIR would be just like the NAACP issuing a "travel advisory" telling black people that they do not have to pull over when a police officer flashes his lights. There is no religious exception to a TSA search.

I fly approximately 30-40 times a year. I've flown 8 times in the past 14 weeks. TSA screeners do not exempt Muslim women from screening.

Religion Offers No Exemption from Airport Screening

A very large problem is that if you refuse either or both, turn on your heels and walk out without submitting, you will be subject to arrest AND the $11,000 fine!

Does that REALLY sound like what the United States should be?! Does THAT sound like it's supported by the Constitution when Article IV states succinctly:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

The fact is, that simply because SOMEONE or SEVERAL call a "national security" reason, does NOT issue blank warrant against the portion of Americans who choose air travel as a means of transportation! The search of person(s), the search of their effects, and the seizure of their property without warrant is ANTICONSTITUTIONAL!

A very large problem is that if you refuse either or both, turn on your heels and walk out without submitting, you will be subject to arrest AND the $11,000 fine!

Can you please provide a link to support your claim?

Minan59

Here it is, step by step, because there are too many reports to post ALL of the links in a mere comment:

Go to your favorite search engine (I picked Yahoo).

Type "Fine for leaving TSA patdown".

Read the results.

Really, it's not that hard, and my justifications to you are ended.

You are the one who made the statement. If you can't provide evidence to support what you said, then I can only assume you were talking out your backside.

http://cbs4.com/local/TSA.Miami.Airplane.2.2018463.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=21942

http://ohiorepublic.blogspot.com/2010/11/man-threatened-with-fine-for-refusing.html

http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/national/11000-fine-for-refusing-airport-scans-patdowns-25-apx-20101123

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/19/AR2010111902998.html

Here are 5 articles that discuss the fines.

Personally, I will not be traveling via air until this issue is resolved. As a rape and incest survivor, the thought of being violated in this fashion is more than I could handle. It will be easier for me to drive where i need to go rather than risk the reactivation of my PTSD and subsequent years of therapy to get myself out of it. As it is, I struggle daily just to survive the flashbacks and psychological trauma associated with my past, there is NO way I will subject myself to this procedure just to fly.

Thanks for the links.

Lazy.